always said was Battle Sight Zero). Basically, I can zero at 50-yards, but know I can still land a shot at 200-yards. Assuming no significant optic height over bore. The 36 yard zero wins. I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. -Bill Wilson. :), Thank you for catching that typo! Great targets. 50/200 yard on the optic Subsonic, a common load is a Sierra MK BTHP 220-grain OTM at 1010 fps, a load still capable of nearly 500 lbs.feet of KE. All charts show a 100 yard zero unless otherwise specified. I dont mean to be, well, mean. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms. I noticed that too. Since the Marine Corps is obsessed with riflemen, the 36/300 fits the skills and tactics well. I understand there might be the occasional exception in Texas or Arizona these days. Once the bullet begins its journey back towards the ground, it will eventually cross your line of sight again, and this is called Terminal Intersection. The 6.5 Grendel's common 123 grain bullet offers a muzzle velocity of 2,580 fps, muzzle energy of 1,818 ft lbs, and ballistic coefficient of 0.506. M/Sgt P.J. What about my AR in .300 Blackout? In this video I use the Caldwell Precision Tripod. (We also did offensive night ambushes and that's when the Claymores did the initial 'shock' 'aiming' for us. For hunting (i.e. Temperature (F) Maximum 140F; Minimum -40F. OLIGHT PL-2, PL2, PL II Valkyrie 1200 Lumen Rail Streamlight 69424 TLR-7A Flex 500-Lumen Streamlight 69260 TLR-1 HL 1000-Lumen Weapon Light Streamlight 69400 TLR-7 Sub 500-Lumen Pistol Light OLIGHT Javelot Tac M 1000 Lumens Tactical AR-15 Basics: Understanding the Anatomy and Operation of the Rifle, 6.5 Grendel vs 5.56 Basic Things To Know. I don't know the answer. (which the M.C. While sacrificing some accuracy in the medium ranges (+3 inches in the 100-200 yard region . whats the best all around variant? , my answer is the 6.8 SPC. This is the height of the highest point in the trajectory of a projectile above the horizontal plane passing through its origin. This is going to be where your point of aim is. For the subsonic zero range: 10/100 yard zero. Now to compare the blue line to represent subsonic rounds to the red line- big trajectory difference as one would expect. All that said, Nick may very well have a point concerning a kill at 100 plus yards. could and would and does easily open up the PBR to much more than six inches at 200 meters, right off the jump shot. Perhaps the center of you group is still -inch left of the bullseye. Keep up the great work! Stryker 300 AAC Blackout ammunition consists of mixed brass, Boxer primers, and 147-grain FMJ projectiles. So what if I told you there was a more efficient and effective way to zero your rifle. The difference is about 0.5" - 0.7" for a 36 yard zero at 25 yards. . Maybe, but I also find it to be highly effective and extremely versatile. I do have to ponder whenever I hear folks argue about meter vs. yards. Additionally it is superior to 5.56 for hunting with supersonic (to limited distances) and fits in the mags you already have. At 350-yards, you can still hit a man in the belly if you aim at his chest youll just see a 5-inch drop from your point of aim. All imperial units are metric, has been for nearly 150 years. Starting to think about a round for a subsonic build that could be effective for hunting mid sized game out to around 100 yards. And Im not being snotty about that, I really want to know. The Trijicon 300 AAC Blackout optic, like most other ACOGs, is a fixed power magnification design. Sure its not the most precise means to hit a target, but in combat, you want quick and accurate. Hornady .300 Blackout 190-Grain Sub-X. This turns out to be a great zero as it puts be just under an inch high at 100 yards, back to zero around 140 and about 5 low at 200. Hogs don't present a large target like the human torso, so sometimes you have to guesstimate when hunting alone. I remember watching a documentary years ago about Olympic archers and how almost 50% of the men's gold medal winner's training time was spent estimating ranges. All 300 BLK ammunition is tested for function using an AR-15-style pistol with a 10.5 . Special ops personnel also requested a cartridge which would shoot well and hit hard suppressed, including suppressed use with SBRs. You'll never be more than 2.5" off POA within 100 yards for subs. With the same ammo and everything else, but using a height above bore of 2.5 inches the POI at 10 yards is -1.9 inches below POA and the first zero intersection with LOS at 0.0 inches deviation is at 50 yards but the second intersection with LOS at 225 yards at 0.0 inches deviation. And could have helped others. It uses both unmodified AR-15 pattern mags and a standard 5.56/.223 bolt, meaning that Ill be able to change calibers in about 2 minutes, by just swapping barrels. The 6.5 Grendel is a lower to mid-power 26 caliber cartridge. Those units stopped being updated a long time ago. Its boringly reliable and predictable from M4 and M16 rifles and their civilian equivalents. anything extra and your If so, give the windage dial three more right clicks, because each click is inch (or .25 inches) at 100 yards, so 3 clicks = inch. It really depends on the person. The 50-yard zero offers a similar feel to the 36-yard zero, and provides an even more accurate grouping between 25 and 250 yards. This zero method is effective but requires a longer range to zero your rifle effectively. When you add sights or an optic to your AR-15, they are positioned to be aimed slightly downwards. Trust, but verify. 7.62x39 requires a much larger bolt face and this makes for a thin-walled bolt that can and will break easier. This provides a trajectory with a maximum ordinate during flight of just over 4.5" above the line of sight at around 200 yards. Went into reserves after 5 years for 8 more as an electrician. You could get a little more distance out of a 25 yard zero (under 1.5 inch drop at 150 yards), but then the bullet moves through a little over 3 inches of variation over 100 yards compared to 1.5 inches with the 50 yard zero. Check out canted optics zeroing tips here. My indoor range says 50, but is actually 44. There are quite a few bullet weights that are Supersonic for the 300AAC BLK. If a rifle is zeroed for 50 yards shoots a round with a muzzle velocity of 1050fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 6.7" drop at 100 yards. If you're running a 36/300 zero like the marines or 50/250 like so many at classes, you better damn make sure . In most cases under all those variable considerations, it's almost useless after 400 meters in actual combat engagements. The 25, 50, and 100 yard zero are all within 1-2" of each other at 100 but where it really makes a difference is when you start to get out to 200-300 yards. But the Armys method is easy to use if meters are your game. Using 55 or 77 grain out of a 10.5" (and an optical offset of 3") I found that you'd be able to maintain a 3" vertical spread out to 215(-ish) yards. As was mentioned early on, this was the method of shooting used in hunting for quite a few years. Now, I understand that they zero the M-16s at 300 yards. Don't know what that is, neither did my recruiter. You won't find a cartridge that "does it all" better than the 300 Blackout. Thanks for breaking this down. The bottom hash mark of a 68 MOA ring reticle from the EOTECH helps by providing a holdover of 2.5 inches above the intended point of impact at about 5 yard point blank distance.". This is without a doubt the simplest to follow description of what's going on when sighting for Zero. So long as your target isn't much over 100 yards, that is. The 50/200 zero is highly precise at 50- to 200-yards. Boom flop. The 36 yard zero idea was initially introduced to the community by Shawn Ryan (Vigilance Elite) Former SEAL. JBM is excellent and free. If the military or law enforcement would pick it up then the ammo price would theoretically come down as well. . At that distance, it retains 400 ft lbs of energy. Most of our shooters are also using basic 5.56/.223 55 grain FMJ for their range ammo, which is also what they zero their rifle with. Yeah, the variation is not more than 2 inches in either direction. The what? I personally use a 50 yard battle zero for my 5.56 / .223. Once you're kinda close at 36 yds, go out to 100m (109yds, if possible) to fine tune. The Armys zero also allows you to get out to 350-yards, but you can expect a little more than 6-inches of drop. The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately -.72 below your point of aim. At closer ranges, from 100 to 250ish, youll hit high but still within 5-inches of your zero. 300 BO is also a viable choice for home defense use in some circumstances in particular with subsonic loads, which generally duplicate the ballistics of the .45 ACP/.45 Auto. He is interested in helping folks protect themselves with firearms and shoot better at the range. This happened twice and i didnt find the bullet as i neglected to bring my boxes of newspaper for the backstop. Z Challenge I Hope It Doesn't Mean Zero For YOU! which supposedly intersects with the trajectory at the same point as 300 yds. I did a little experimenting on trajectory software, but didnt come up with anything concrete. And at 300-yards, youll be hitting low as well. And, of course, that's why the Army has 50 bmgs and mortars, and etc. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the rough 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. And again next, this -1.9 inches POI below POA Proctor and everyone else is using is for a sight height above bore of 2.5 inches for an AR and not the standard 2.6 inches for an AR and it makes a difference as does the ammo being used. It seems like a 1-trick pony subsonic or nothing at all. At 36 yards, the bullet's trajectory will be 4 inches above the point of aim, and at 300 yards it will be about 2 inches below the point of aim, providing a suitable point of impact for distances between 25 and 300 yards. 36 yard zero covered by a CD (4.65") out to 300 yrds. Every time I fired it, I had blowback in my eyes and sometimes a black smudge on my forehead. Put dot on center mass. More specifically, the specialized battlesight zeroes you can use with AR-15 style rifles. If you can aim at the middle of the square and the bullets trajectory doesnt exceed 6-inches up or down up from 25- to 300-yards your MPBR would be 300-yards. They allow you to zero at a specific range, often very short, but the zero holds up to hundreds of yards. Wonderful to know! I certainly have no problem hitting at 200 yds. It seems like a 1-trick pony subsonic or nothing at all.. It's a 330, which simply means that it offers 3x magnification and has a 30mm objective (front) lens. For example, a 110 gr v-max traveling at 2300 fps will be approximately 1.2" low at 25 yards when sighted in at 100 and 23.7 inches low at 300. We didn't range often. I live in an urban environment and shoot at an indoor range 30y max. When I hit skip, it loaded the Free Version. I learned about height over bore the hard way in 29 Palms California, training for my first deployment. A 125-grain OTM leaves a 16-inch barrel @ 2215 fps, with a 110-grain Hornady V-Max @ 2375 fps. For better or worse, the 36 yard zero is basically a hybrid that flattens out the St. Louis Arch of a trajectory the 25 yard zero creates while still providing a decent maximum range. This bullet is designed to expand at subsonic velocity, and that's made possible via a hollow cavity flanked by extra-long grooves on the jacket. Shooting the rifle was an adventure. Is this the case? Click below for a FREE LESSON! But thats not a shot I would be comfortable making on wildlife. Not humane. I then bench rest check it at the range at actual 50 and 200 yards and some other distances in-between those and sure enough its within 2 inches of point of aim and dead on at 50 yards. You are aiming slightly upwards. It's also something that only needs to be done in whatever your favored flavor of range is, yards or meters. A 50 yard zero allows the shooter to use a simple center-mass hold to ranges of point blank to 200-250 yards, depending on rifle . BadAssOptic.com is a participant in the Amazon.com Services LLC Associates, AvantLink, Impact Radius & ShareASale Affiliate Programs, affiliate advertising programs designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees. The only stuff I can find is $1/round and I dont need it that badly! I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctor's video on this zeroing method and my brief . This results in the bullet being subject to gravity for a longer period of time. If I could see ya I would hit you . . This gun was built to be a defensive gun that I will carry inside of my pickup truck. Or, in terms of hunting, avariationof less than the profile of a deer heart over 100 yards. [emailprotected]. These factors clearly indicate the .300 Blackout's superior performance over a cartridge that was previously classed as "Gold Standard.". They also have some other fun things, I recommend taking a look! All my defense shooting would be in an urban setting, so, no long shots that my 73 aged eyes could not see anyway. The trajectory is a little rainbow like and the 7.6239 and 30-30 are pretty good comparisons. Hes a lifelong shooter who just happened to be mediocre enough with a gun and a keyboard to combine the two and write. An MPBR zero allows you to do nothing more than put a sight on the chest of your target and pull the trigger with a better-than-likely chance youll hit it. My fascination with the cartridge is that it should make for a superlative defensive and (once the cost comes down) plinking round. For the future, can you shoot like a little girl? The dashed circle is for acceptable human error and its generous. This line of ammunition is 100% American-made and designed for range training. This time with more of an 'advantage'. Fun challenge designed by Mr. Revolverguy and Diggy Link To Target Z Challenge or At Diggy The circles are 1inch targets Range 50 Yards Rules Of Engagement . But it doesnt really offer the versatility of some others, and cant do everything, for example, like the .308 Winchester can. Check this out: X95 with EOTech on Unity Tactical FAST mount ~ 4" optic height over bore total. The Army made a move to meters I guess to make it easier to communicate with our NATO allies and better coordinate equipment and gear. Imagine you have a target that is a 12-inch square. I've had problems trying to zero the 10/22 with the 3x9 at close range (10-15y) before, but after reading this article it makes perfect sense. I personally prefer .270 cal and so I lean towards the 6.8 SPC because of the better long range performance, but .300 Blackout does what its supposed to do really well. Most of my Blackout problems have involved Mezcal. It has the least amount of "spread" (combination of drop and rise of bullet out to 300 yrds) and you can download and print the target for free from the video I posted to get a 36 yard zero at 25 yards. Beyond 200-yards makes it a lot easier to miss, and if you miss, where is that bullet going? Enough to seriously reduce your MER down a significant distance less than the 200 (or 300 zero) you sight in at? I'm pretty sure the Army's zero is longer range than the Marine Corps' as stated. The regular non-Pro version (which your link points to) is free. With a scope height of 1.5 inches, the parabolic arc of the round peaks at 50 yards and returns once more to -1.5 inches at 100 yards. I know it's fun, but It's probably better to just practice enough with your main 'go gun' so that you can hit your target out to 100 meters with 90% plus efficacy While you are practicing moving to cover or flanking. And well trained snipers for reaching way out if tactical situations require it for advantage. The free ballistic calculator links were great too. As soon as I could, I traded that carbine and $10.00 I earned helping my grandfather for a 1903 Springfield and thought I had died and gone to heaven. And in turn, the trajectory past 100 yards for this gun has been described as rainbow-like.. Good questions. Best of all, you can zero your rifle and optic to this 50/200-yard setting at 10-yards. It drops the least across 300 yards (8.57"). My question is with a Trijicon ACOG BDC being in meters it sounds like I have to do math for BDC accuracy if I use the Merica system. We cover the most common battlesight zeroes and the easy-to-understand science behind them. Sweet. The U.S.M.C. The USMC zero is best for extended-range shooting. Calculate a dope table with whatever zero floats your boat, tape it to the butt of your rifle, or, shrink it to fit within a rifle scope lens cover or do what I do and use a wrist coach (much larger and much easier to log dope in 25 yard increments), use some form of range finding, and learn to adjust for elevation (and windage, if you have a ballistic calculator). Again, be sure to confirm your zero at 300 yards given the chance. We all instantly flattened out and just layed down as much full auto suppressive fire as fast as we could switch mags by holding the weapons above our bodies in the cover foliage usually with one hand sticking out only point shooting (m-16 shorty CAR-15s were great for this) to give the two M-60 gunners a couple seconds to I.D. Perhaps I'm dating myself? 300 AAC/Blackout arose in the 2000s during GWOT out of military requirements for an individual weapon which would hit harder than the standard-issue M-4 carbine in 5.5645 NATO, but without a substantial increase in weight, or the need to issue an entirely new weapon system. The chief advantage of 300 Blackout is its versatility. Your post answers some questions I've had about the 50/200 at 10 yard zero. Still not a range mos. Can shooters estimate better than +/- 10% under pressure? Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>, Ballistic Coefficient of the projectile (read more about that. Couple of comments: So, the 300 Blk only matches those two huh? However, when it hit a deer, it left little doubt about the result. A spotter with rangefinder helps, but I still don't deviate much from POA. Well, the 300blk is great for subsonic, with very little lost going from a 16 to a 10 barrel. I have a Ruger precession rimfire with a 3x9 scope and a 10/22 with a HS507C reflex optic. Weve got other recommendations in our Best Ballistic Calculator App article. Our bad! At 36 yards, the bullet's trajectory will be 4 inches above the point of aim, and at 300 yards it will be about 2 inches below the point of aim, providing a suitable point of impact for distances between 25 and 300 yards. To better understand MPBR, we need to talk about ballistics and how a round flies through the air. Winchester Ballistics Calculator. With those numbers, it competes with the 45-70, but only external ballistics. I will primarily be shooting 300 BLK subs with a suppressor. Or even the 30-30. That said, I come from a 5.56mm background and know very little about 300 BLK trajectories across various distances. Elevation Windage Units. The above models are designed for AR-15s in 5.56 and .223 in standard barrel lengths. 2,175 ft/s : Bullet Velocity @ 100 yds. VIEW ALL VERSIONS. With a 50/200 MPBR zero, there is only a 3- to 4-inch difference in point of aim and point of impact from 50-yards to 250-yards. I doubt many "duly elected" prosecutors here in the mid-west would see it otherwise. At this point I think finding ammo for a 300 is more difficult than zeroing one. In the Vietnam era we zeroed the M-14 at 200 yards. It provides a load comparable to a .30-30 or 7.6239 that functions perfectly in an AR-15. Simply put, MPBR is the max range you can aim at a specific sized target and still hit it without making adjustments for holdover. The 50 yard zero provides for effective center-mass hits on target at the ranges where a carbine is most commonly used. As a round travels, it does not stay entirely in line with your point of aim. Hunters were likely the first to use MPRB with old-school scopes. It also had a trajectory about like a mortar. If the bullet drops more than 6-inches at 300-yards or elevates more than 6-inches at or on its way to 300-yards, you cant hit your target and therefore do not have a 300-yard MPBR. Chris Costa shooting 300 Blackout. And the federal xm193 is 55 grain. Of course, this is a matter of opinion, but when it comes to making accurate shots from point blank distance all the way out to 300 yards you really cant argue that the 36 yard zero makes thinking about your hold overs and unders a breeze, which is especially the case when youre under extreme stress. Conclusion: For a standard 16" barrel shooting 223/5.56, the 50-yard zero is the flattest shooting and you just need to remember that last 200 yards you start to aim higher and 300 yards, as long as you can see your target, won't be impossible to hit with a red dot. When I was a slack-jawed 18-year old, I remember someone explaining Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) and Battlesight Zeroes to me and nodding as if I understood. The Trijicon is an "adjust once" design with each click representing MOA. But over years I heard aim low or aim high at this or that. We observe the shot group is 1.5" left and 4" high. Between 25- and 300-meters, the zero will give you 6-inches of flight variance compared to the USMCs less than 5. Whats the problem? Is it really better than 7.6239 or 30-30? That trajectory just doesnt sound right. Type your email address and well send HOLOSUN HS510C 2 MOA Dot Or A 65 MOA Ring Open Sig Sauer SOR52001 Romeo5 1x20mm Compact 2 Moa Red HOLOSUN HS507C X2 Circle Dot Solar Failsafe. With a 50 yard zero shooting 110gr TSX Black Tip, Im about .5 high at 100 yards, back to zero around 125, -2 around 160 and about -6 around 200 yards. it isn't completely tested, but the numbers that I did happen to test were r. Except when they sometimes attacked our base camp and got inside the wire at night, but no stand-still 'battle sight' aiming, other than rapid point shooting usually while moving. My grandfather was a large animal vet (small animals were not treated, they were disposed of and replaced) and he traded treatment of a "haywire " cow for a really old cavalry carbine, saddle ring and all, along with a couple of boxes of old, lead bullet cartridges. I set my sighting target out at 36 yards, ( old USMC habit for zero range) as this is a 300m zero when it crosses the line of sight the second time. MacII, your writing reminds me of Patrick E. McManus, a writer for "Field & Stream" years ago. A lot stronger. No, technically metric. It was a point of contention on qual day. Centerfire Handgun. I thought this was great. 200 yard zero keeps POI <1.5" from POA from 20 to 230 yards. I just ordered 10 boxes of Pro Hunter as well. It seems like a 1-trick pony subsonic or nothing at all. The .300 Blackout cartridge is around 40% heavier than a 9mm round fired from the MP5-SD. Besides, if you are really shooting out passed 200 meters, or even a hundred, and it's not a snipe or surprise ambush to the target, you shouldn't be engaged. He obliterated the rock because the ACOG sat 2.7 inches above his boreand he just couldnt see it. (the call it 'blank' because it's realized as the maximum 'ineffective' range aka the range where your target is blank from No hits from sighted in zeroes point of aim. Out to 274 yards with a 200-yard zero At a mere 126 yards with a 300-yard zero the trajectory is out of our allowed radius. I will not have to make adjustments to compensate. Great article with very simple-to-understand explanations. Great article! Grab a collection of his stories in "A Fine and Pleasant Misery". Because the Blackout is wider, yet they tend to have similar weight, the Blackout has a lower Ballistic Coefficient than the 6.5 Grendel. Barnes 110gr TAC-TX is awesome in 300 blackout. Guess what you can do in Imperial units? We utilize new 5.56/.223 brass that has been reformed into 300 BLK brass. Thank You. For a new build or new sights/red-dots I do an initial 50 yard zero at 10 yards out back with Federal American Eagle 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ XM193BL. Self defense .300 blackout with red dot @ 25 yards. Travis Pike is a Marine infantry veteran, firearms enthusiast, and NRA certified instructor. The faded yellow circle around the black circle is there for variables such as sight to bore distance and bullet weight. So, Magpul has done a great job in regards to that 300 Blackout . They have 25, 50, and 100yds but no 36. At 150, the round has dropped 6 and a half inches. Check out a technique that should help you figure out your ideal 300 BLK zero. And this translates well to the torso of a human target. Thanks for being there for us, sir. All of your rounds should really be at least touching the faded circle. It doesnt matter. At first glance, the classic 25-yard zero is the best zeroing distance across the entire length of terminal effectiveness. Its very precise but does limit you to 200-yards. One note - StrelokPro for android shows up as an $11.99 app on the store. The 36-yard zero is a versatile option, providing an optimal balance between close-range and long-range shooting. I did the same with my 300 blackout. Its simple as the round meets the line of sight at 36 rising then 300 as its falling. Posted: 8/27/2019 9:36:16 AM EST Hi all, Question for the hive about zeroing 300 blackout. towards your level. 6.8 SPC. I've never seen a 36 yard range, maybe the marines own them all? Anywho the Armys zero is comparable to the USMC, offering similar range potential. If a target is beyond 200-yards in the police world, you probably wont take the shot unless forced to. Well, since I had my question posted, guess it was time for me register finally. I understood things that I had trouble with other descriptions. I started zeroing my 22s at 70 yards. On the other hand, while the 25-yard zero is suitable for shooting at 25, 300 and 400 yards, it requires careful holdover compensation for accurate targeting at 150, 200, 250 and 450 yards. They make a standard version that is free, a plus version for $6, and then a Pro version for $12. I still shot well. And, it all fits in your AR-15 envelop with only a barrel change. Plus, to be fair, Im better at using yards than meters because I use Freedom units. This article is just about the most horrible zeroing advice imaginable. So actually measure your sight height above bore and make sure because a lot of people with standard height above bore of 2.6 inches are taking for granted the -1.9 inch 10 yard zero method and getting deviations they try to reconcile at 50 and 200 yards when their actual second intersection is beyond that and they are actually probably zeroed but don't realize it because they take the 2.5 inches and 50/200 yard as gospel. That's because at 300 yards, aim will match point of impact. As he aimed at his target with his ACOG, he couldnt see the softball-sized rock a few feet in front of him and shot it twice without even realizing it. That tactic always did the trick. are you talking subsonic or supersonic loads? 300 AAC Blackout is a fantastic hunting round. Southern Motion Showstopper Fabric Power Wall Hugger Recliner in Platinum Gray by Southern Motion. And that serves as the furtherest zero range youll have. What about my Mk 18 with a 10.3-inch barrel? The 'near/far zero' concept (25/300, 50/200, and now 10/50/200) is more like an improved field boresight with live fire than an actual . I'm trying to zero them at the range next weekend. I bisect my target in the middle and shoot. Sounds like youre probably shooting sub 2100 then. Its within 2 inches of point of aim all the way from 10 yards out to 200 yards. The bullet is still rising tomeet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. While having a chunky projectile is a nice improvement over the standard 5.56 cartridge, it does mean that you lose some muzzle velocity. Macll, your post is the beginning of an excellent book the world needs to read. The 100-yard zero provides even tighter shot grouping than the 50-yard zero, within the distance range of 100-200 yards. Better than the 5.56-hell yes. I'm shooting 125 grain bullets around 1800 fps. Thoughts on sighting in a red dot and scope combination, where the red dot is for close range and scope for long range? Ha ha ha ha. The majority of our clients usesome type of red dot holographic sight whetherit beEoTech,Aimpoint,Trijicon, orVortexoptics. In my opinion, the 300 BLK round is the perfect gun for game under 100 yards away. I will primarily be running supersonic factory ammo. Take a look at the Best AR-15 Scopes & Optics! 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